Reloading paper patched bullets

Looking at some of the original paper patched bullets in my cartridge collection i noticed they used tallow or bees wax to do. Shoot em the way they were originally designed to be shot, with black powder and paper patched bullets. This last pic is of a 100yd five shot group from a 224 cal rifle. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45. Paperpatched bullets were merely the forerunners of modern jacketed bullets. Reloading paper patched bullets the anser to this inquiry came from the pastas they often do. Quantity 1,000 loose packed bullet 100 grain round nose flat base rn fb manufacturer berrys. Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far.

Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting shooters. Theres not a whole lot of folks shooting paper patched bullets so its difficult to compare notes with someone else. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. If for instance i wished to reduce a black powder charge in a. Using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. After testing a series of bullet diameters in four different rifles, two sweet spots. Titan reloading offers rifle and pistol bullets in many popular calibers like accura, acme, jacketed and clearance bullets. The paperpatched 400grain bullets were loaded over 75 grains by weight of the olde eynsford 1 12f with a walters. Its funny there is only 1 view on this post, since ive only seen a handful of references for paper patched bullets in this cartridge, but i guess there probably isnt that much interest in this old reloading art so oh well. The art of paper patching, how to make your paper patched. Once i figured out i didnt need all that velocity for cast to work properly. The paper i used was plain old letter writing paper. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered. Ive been shooting paper patch bullets for a long time and find that milk cartons make good wad material and spg lube wad of about.

There is some question about whether the accuracy improvements result from the paper jackets or from the greater uniformity of shooting procedures by people with the patience to apply the patches. It seems to be all the rage on the casting sites ive been looking at, but i cant find any step by step or how to info on it. Loading the bullet grooves with grease is not needed with paper patches. Reloading paper patched bullets with the accuracy potential of cast. Provides techniques in use during the 1870s and 1880s with accommodation for some 20th century technology where appropriate. Mar, 2018 the load i used on this hunt and trust in this rifle is my favorite, a 500 gr. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and. In the final chapter, he gives a quick summary of what works. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110 by tom ball. Assra forum paper patched bullets smooth or grooved.

Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Harrison and the staff at the american rifleman worked with paperpatched bullets in the. Berdan and whitworth rifles used during the civil war and years after, fired paper patched lead bullets consisting of two turns of moistened paper tightly wrapped around the bullet. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard. Velocities can be easily pushed over 3000 fps, and often you can get higher velocity with a paper patched bullet than you can with jacketed bullets. Lube bullets will work in those chambers of course, but there are a few customonly chamber designs that will not shoot, or even chamber, a groove diameter lubed bullet. As velocity increased and rifling was introduced a problem of lead remaining in the bore was of concern. I just finished reading the paper jacket by paul matthews and i am intrigued to try my hand at this. I dont bother to remove hard lube from the bullets. This big 640 grain bullet is cast in a bhn9 alloy and patched to your choice of. His delightfully informative book on the subject, the paper jacket, is perhaps the best resource for a reloader interested in utilizing paperpatched bullets with smokeless powder. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. There is one fellow who shoots yds with his black powser 45 cal rifle and puts them all in the the black.

Masking tape patched lead bullets carolina shooters club. Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Specific bullet prepaper diameter, paper weight and powder charge would be appreciated.

Handloading the 5070 for antique and modern rifles. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load data. A paper patch bullet will do anything a grease groove bullet can do, and then some. Manual for step by step procedure to reload target quality ammunition using paper patched bullets. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a. Any have experience using paper patched bullets in the. How in the world would one go about preparing such ammunition today. The paper patch bullet is from montana precision swaging and it has a wicked cutting edge or wad cutter type shoulder, which leaves pronounced full caliber holes in paper. Loading the black powder rifle cartridge by paul matthews and loading and shooting paper patched bullets by randolph. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. These bullets are normally only seated to around 316 into the case mouth or less. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with.

Loading and shooting paper patched bullets accurate reloading. Paper patching is an evolutionary stage in bullet development that resulted in the jacketed bullet. I just ordered a perdesoli 1874 sharps snipe rifle. Here is a formula that works great in 90% of the guns.

This is the 50 caliber 640 gn big brother to our 500 gn 45 cal paper patch bullets for lever action rifles also on auction. They are bullet components, not ready to fire ammunition. It seems to be all the rage on the casting sites ive been looking at, but i cant. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. You can use any alloy you want for shooting paper patch bullets.

With the goal of preventing contact between alloy and bore wall and, perhaps, a reduction in metal cost, i. Some a bit better than others, but most factory chambered rifles can shoot paper patches quite well. Handloading the 5070 for antique and modern rifles by croft barker most single shot aficionados are aware of the fact that the fiftyseventy government cartridge was first issued to u. If youre a diehard paperpatched bullet shooter, youre undoubtedly familiar with paul matthews. These are new bullets reloading projectiles or bullet tips, none have been pulled or reused. Berdan and whitworth rifles used during the civil war and years after, fired paperpatched lead bullets consisting of two turns of moistened paper tightly wrapped around the bullet. I have a new to me 4570 single shot sharps that i am thinking i could load up and pretend i am an old buffalo hunter. Loading paper patched bullets montana bullet works. The cast bullet association is an organization of shooters who enjoy shooting cast lead bullets in rifles and handguns for competition, hunting, or. I am thinking about this for a newly acquired gibbs.

Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. I lube them with the lube i make for grooved bullets, although many types will work. Thats the subject of my book, loading and shooting. The paper does not require lubrication in the bore but it will require some to seat the bullet without tearing the paper and it helps to keep the edge of the paper tearing or trying to unravel in the finished cartridge. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. Army units in 1866 for use in the model 1866 springfield trapdoor. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. This video will show the basic 2 wrap patch boolit. A selection of historic, british military ammunition.

I have no experience with anything but modern rifle reloading. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. The paper patch bullet is from montana precision swaging and it has a wicked cutting edge or wad cutter type shoulder, which leaves pronounced full caliber holes in paper targets. Gunbroker is the largest seller of reloading supplies ammunition reloading all. Using paper patched bullets is not something most reloaders have done, watch along as larry potterfield, founder and ceo of midwayusa shows how to cast bullets designed reloading how to load ammunition for the 4050 sharps bottleneck using paper patched bullets on vimeo. Id cut a large batch of patches in front of the tv. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. A very general rule of thumb has it that patched dead soft lead can reach 2,000 fps before things go sideways and harder alloys can do 3,000 fps or more.

How i paper patch my 490 grain pure lead bullets for my 1887 martini henry rifle. One of the earlier attempts, which is still popular today with muzzle loaders and users of black. Any of you guys done any playing around with reloading the pp rounds. Reloading how to load ammunition for the 4050 sharps. Get bulk bullets reloading and bullet tip us reloading. Sizing paperpatched bullets for smokeless powder load. Commonly called bullet tips or projectile tips, and are just one component of what is needed for reloading bullets ammunition. From what ive written about paper you can see its imperative to know the paper thickness before determining your bullet mould diam. Clean bullets and proper loading technique are essential for both patch types.

Breechloading rifles using brass cartridge cases were invented, with target shooters at first loading by seating a bullet into the rifling like world. Oct 22, 2008 after having an interest for a long time, i finally decided to make a very small investment and experiment with paper patched bullets. Quantity 1,000 loose packed bullet 100 grain round nose hollow base. We are a custom shop specializing in creating premium, hand cast bullets for all handloaders including recreational and competitive shooters. Reloading how to load ammunition for a martini rook rifle in 300 rook reloading how to load ammunition for the 4050 sharps bottleneck using paper patched bullets reloading pan lubing cast bullets presented by larry potterfield of midwayusa. Paper patched vs cast bullets british militaria forums. Discussion in reloading started by sharps4050, mar 4, 2012. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110. Paper patched bullets the curio and relic firearms forum.

The first try was prompted by another posting here regarding steyr 8x56r carbines which turned out to have a groove diameter. Patching tape is 1 wide allowing a tail to be clipped and eventual trimming of the forward end of the patch in. I also made a patching jig so that the paper on the bullets were all the same. I have a older speer reloading book that has some info on just loading the 357 bullets in a 35 casing but i thought one could get better accuracy out of heavy 357. Lots of advantages, especially compared to grease groove bullets. If you have a question that isnt answered in our bullet information, resources, or faq pages, send an email or give a call. Earl naramore in his handloading ammunition and the priciples and practices of reloading ammunition cover the subject in its basic form. A small number of dedicated target shooters still load paper patched bullets at velocities up to about 2,000 feet per second 610 ms. This is a discussion on paper patching 4570 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category.

Corbin paper patch and blackpowder bullet swagingreloading. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. If your paper is thinner, adjust the bullet accordingly. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder. In case you didnt know paper patched bullets allow you to shoot lead projectiles close to the speed of a jacketed bullet. I know they are used in rifle bullets to achieve higher velocities while using softer lead for. They are factory and bulk reloading bullets, in lead, plated and jacketed. In fact i may be the only one in the world shooting paper patched bullets from a.

As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers. A beginners guide to loading and shooting paper patched bullets for early black powder cartridge rifles. A beginners guide for learning to load and shoot paper patched bullets by randolph s. We rely on a quality products, delivery and value for our customers.

New lube for black powder rifles american shooting journal. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and remington rolling block replica bpcr rifles. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a paper patch to obtain top velocities with poured slugs. They have a whole forum discussing paper patched bullets. Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment. I have a question of the use of wads under paper patched bullets. Apr, 2018 the mechanics of black powder paper patching are very simular to smokeless paper patching, but smokeless takes a slightly different technique. Jul 10, 2008 regular paper especially for patching can be gotten from buffalo arms co. Paper patched jacketed bullets in use with a very low powder load, a reason for the terrible accuracy, a proper load for cast bullets should have been used, even low loads for jacketed bullets can be used research loads carefully on this issue. Or, print your order after entering your address, attach. I want to play a little bit before i start going to any competitions. I get results i am satisfied with from a grease grove bullets. Bullets that are over bore size and patched will shoot but you will get leading because the patches will be cut when shooting the bore to lead.

I addition to the usual remedies you use when loading black powder cartridge ammunition with grease. A simple wipe with a paper towel to clean grit and lube from the driving bands. My heart wants to reload black powder paper patch rounds but my brain say grease groove smokeless. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders duration. Pretty much any chamber will shoot paper patched bullets. Sep 11, 2016 for the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load.